You are partially correct ...... Bill and Paul knew the guy with the DOS operating system, as it was "freeware" at that time and everyone who had a computer interest was using it .... you are correct in that Bill and Paul sold an operating system to IBM that they did not own .... IBM paid them a licensing fee rather than purchasing the software out right .... so Bill and Paul went back to the guy and offered him a piece of the licensing fee, and he said that he would rather sell it out right for $50,000.00 .... there was nothing in the contract about only Microsoft using it. Microsoft did not exist at that time .... Microsoft came later ... I was there!
Yep Michele is correct. I wasn’t there but have been using MS OS’s and many programming tools for over 15 years, including C (in the DOS days) and then C++ and VB (in the Windows days). I am confident that I know my facts and I believe you were still a little baby in Hungry at the time I started to write code. Incidentally, some of the software I have written is used in Hungry (a couple of Movie theaters). As far as C++ goes, you are right; it is a very hard language to get to grips with (especially if you were trying to figure out multi-threaded Windows applications at the same time). A lot of professional programmers obviously did manage to figure out how to work with C++, OOP, polymorphism, inheritance etc. This was on many computing platforms not just Windows. Microsoft’s entire NT based operating systems (Windows NT 3.5 through Windows XP and now Windows.Net) are, for the most part written exclusively in C++. Maybe you’re not as smart as you think you are and blame your tool set on your own inadequacies. My Dad (who would not even use an ATM) used to say something about a carpenter blaming his tools! You may want to take a look at Microsoft.Net and C# (pronounced C sharp), it’s a huge improvement over C++, who knows you may even be able to “point and click” your way to creating “Hello World”. Anyway, there are many, many very smart people at Microsoft and I think there may be many seasoned programmers on this forum too. I’ll debate anything you want on this subject if you like, but I have a feeling Bill Gates and C++ are just more of your generalizations, and that your really not that detail oriented when it comes down to it. Heck, maybe you should challenge me; you will spend more time finding obscure technical C++ memory pointer issues or syntax deficiencies than posting your other garbage. That (as well as this post) will put 99% of the rest of the community to sleep, or they will continue to engage in discussions about one of our passions in life, the Hummer H2 and talking with other on-line friends.
Only Phil will get this; polymorphism is not the English form of something like spackle.
I found this entertaining to some degree, but it's grown old...particularly when he miserably fails to answer any real questions or substantiate anything he claims.
His technique: deny everything, concede nothing, refute endlessly and argue to the counter. And above all: never confuse him with the truth or real facts!
I'm pretty sure he wasn't the fastest of millions of sperm....he just drove them all nuts with his incessant rambling. It's just pathetic.
I'm changing the channel. I'm outta here!
Andklown....if you find your way out west, let me know: I'll take ya offroading. There's a particular hill I can use you on....in a spot where I could use some additional traction!
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quote:Originally posted by TheGoodHummerMan: Andkon,
[long ramble]
Ed
The Constitution gives the right to say whatever one wants, especially when it is written down. (written material is virtually "unsueable", even if it all lies)
Try this on for size: Hungary has less oppurtunities for people to acieve their fullest. The reason I don't write in Hungarian or argue about Hungarian topics is that few people in the country care either way. People there have been mentally decimated by years of communism and now carpetbag capitalism. In America, there seems to be people who care and who want to change things for the better. However, there are those, you amongst them, who try to censor and limit what comes out of people's mouths, well as long as you disagree. The best thing to do is, if your head is boiling with anger, is to stop responding.
The argument that somehow my point is less valid because I wasnt born here is completely inarguable, as there are many Americans who say the same thing.
You are partially correct ...... Bill and Paul knew the guy with the DOS operating system, as it was "freeware" at that time and everyone who had a computer interest was using it .... you are correct in that Bill and Paul sold an operating system to IBM that they did not own .... IBM paid them a licensing fee rather than purchasing the software out right .... so Bill and Paul went back to the guy and offered him a piece of the licensing fee, and he said that he would rather sell it out right for $50,000.00 .... there was nothing in the contract about only Microsoft using it. Microsoft did not exist at that time .... Microsoft came later ... I was there!
Well, let's make it clearer. Billy and pals already told IBM they had an OS ready, which they didnt. So they went to Patterson, the QDOS guy, who had no idea that it was to be relicenced. That's why he sued. He lost and then in his anguish (and perhaps other problems) committed suicide. He was the first to realize what a success Microsoft would be.
Patterson was noted by computer professionals not to be too tactful or overly interested in money. Yet for some reason, he was motivated to make the OS in the first place. Since casual use was freeware, by the way, what motivated him to inadvertantly create the basis of 95% of the world's computers?
No I wasnt going to, but now that you mention you could clean up your website's code a bit, huh? HTML is by far much simpler than any programming language.
I had a feeling you would avoid getting into details with me. Again you just generalize and criticize, but don’t offer specifics.
“No I wasn’t going to, but now that you mention you could clean up your website's code a bit, huh? HTML is by far much simpler than any programming language”
HTML is a simple language? Yes it is which is why it was extended with DHTML, XML, XSL, Java, JavaScript, etc. It’s not a language as such however. HTML as you know is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It’s basically just a document formatting technique and not a programming language. The industry (people like me) extended it because of its limitations. Incidentally, in the computer industry that’s called progress. They/we continue to do so, so as to to gain an edge on competitors (free market etc.). The user community benefits. The majority appreciate that the web is far more usable, interactive, and fun that it was say 4 or 5 years ago (when you were about 12 or 13 I guess). You can refute that all you want, but it’s a fact. Companies would not spend money on doing it because a couple of their programmers think it’s cool. Maybe you prefer a simple “language” like HTML because you can’t handle the real programming languages.
Your own site and your HTML code is not exactly the best thing I have ever seen. Certainly it is more than HTML anyway.
How can you comment on my code? You haven’t seen it, it’s all compiled C# and VB.Net code running on top of the MS.Net CLR on the server side. Do you even know what dynamic server side code is? If I have neglected to keep up-to-date on IIS security patches and haven’t secured my site properly there is a possibility you could hack my site and download one of the .Net assemblies and then disassemble it. I seriously warn you not to do so, that’s would be illegal. I doubt that you could have done that in the time between my post and yours. Sure the HTML that my server side code generates is not pretty to look at; it’s not supposed to be. To be honest I have not really looked at it other than making sure it’s interpreted correctly by a couple of the major browser. My HTML stretches HTML to its limits and then adds on to it via JavaScript and DHTML. Take a look at most of the commercial web sites out there and will find much the same thing.
You know, I could go on with this but limited my reply because to be honest I can’t be bothered to add more details. I think that at best all you could do is read some books or asked the teachers that you haven’t pissed off to help you counter. I will not get into a debate with a library. I seriously doubt you can match me one-on-one with the same tools in a face to face environment. I am not the best programmer out there by far. I have met only one true wiz kid before and he simply astounded and humbled me. You don’t!
Now, as one of my esteemed colleges here on his site put it “PISS OFF”.
quote:Originally posted by Alec W: I had a feeling you would avoid getting into details with me. Again you just generalize and criticize, but don’t offer specifics.
“No I wasn’t going to, but now that you mention you could clean up your website's code a bit, huh? HTML is by far much simpler than any programming language”
HTML is a simple language? Yes it is which is why it was extended with DHTML, XML, XSL, Java, JavaScript, etc. It’s not a language as such however. HTML as you know is an acronym for Hyper Text Markup Language. It’s basically just a document formatting technique and not a programming language. The industry (people like me) extended it because of its limitations. Incidentally, in the computer industry that’s called progress. They/we continue to do so, so as to to gain an edge on competitors (free market etc.). The user community benefits. The majority appreciate that the web is far more usable, interactive, and fun that it was say 4 or 5 years ago (when you were about 12 or 13 I guess). You can refute that all you want, but it’s a fact. Companies would not spend money on doing it because a couple of their programmers think it’s cool. Maybe you prefer a simple “language” like HTML because you can’t handle the real programming languages.
Your own site and your HTML code is not exactly the best thing I have ever seen. Certainly it is more than HTML anyway.
How can you comment on my code? You haven’t seen it, it’s all compiled C# and VB.Net code running on top of the MS.Net CLR on the server side. Do you even know what dynamic server side code is? If I have neglected to keep up-to-date on IIS security patches and haven’t secured my site properly there is a possibility you could hack my site and download one of the .Net assemblies and then disassemble it. I seriously warn you not to do so, that’s would be illegal. I doubt that you could have done that in the time between my post and yours. Sure the HTML that my server side code generates is not pretty to look at; it’s not supposed to be. To be honest I have not really looked at it other than making sure it’s interpreted correctly by a couple of the major browser. My HTML stretches HTML to its limits and then adds on to it via JavaScript and DHTML. Take a look at most of the commercial web sites out there and will find much the same thing.
You know, I could go on with this but limited my reply because to be honest I can’t be bothered to add more details. I think that at best all you could do is read some books or asked the teachers that you haven’t pissed off to help you counter. I will not get into a debate with a library. I seriously doubt you can match me one-on-one with the same tools in a face to face environment. I am not the best programmer out there by far. I have met only one true wiz kid before and he simply astounded and humbled me. You don’t!
Now, as one of my esteemed colleges here on his site put it “PISS OFF”.
Well my pages validate, which I would think isnt that hard considering HTML is quite simple. While most people don't bother, it's a good tool. If your website validated, the tables wouldnt be misaligned, as now. And perhaps if it had CSS design, it wouldnt be clutter code full of nested tables. Of course, you dont know about any of these things but talk as if you were on top of the game. It's thanks to non validating websites as yours that progress is slow. Web browsers are made to be inclusive of old outdated HTML. Internet Explorer, for example, doesnt even fully support the proposed HTML standards from 1998.
HTML by itself IS NOT A LANGUAGE? What does the L stand for then? It's not a programming language, however a markup language is still a language.
Once again, you have proved your insufficient and only trifling knowledge in a subject.
[This message was edited by andkon on 05-16-03 at 12:32 PM.]
Where are your parent's while you are using all of this hate and anger on the computer?
It seems to me they need to work less hours and spend some time with you!! I think you are in desperate need of attention. If you were my BOY you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else kicking your butt!! If my teenage kid was using language like you he wouldn't be able to use his fingers to type they would be broken.
Maybe you and your family could go on the Dr. Phil show and get your differences worked out. He would tell your parent's that they probably weren't meeting your needs. Maybe you should talk to them and ask them for some love and attention.
quote:Originally posted by andkon:
quote:Originally posted by Alec W: If you consider your “article” as humorous, then you truly are sick. Let me rephrase my post “wow this kid is sick in my opinion”. Now some advice; if you continue to go through life writing articles such as this you will find that some people will not see the humor. Some of these people will not be the nice, fun loving, “fairly” normal Hummer owner’s that you find here. These people are the type that will track you down and beat the living crap out of you. Now that’s never happened to me personally but I would assume that it’s not very humorous. On the plus side if that fate were to befall you, it might be enlightening and bring you back to reality.
One more thing, I don't get all this violence. I write words and you suggest that people might want to beat the shit out of me? That sounds barbaric to me, perhaps my implied topic of inferiority is somewhat true?
That's the sick thing, when you are stupid enough to beat someone up over a few silly words. Makes the person seem like a tyrant imposing his muscles over a brain. There is something called the 1st Amendment to some document.
I was trying to snip it cold and terminate the thread with that being the last response any of us waste on this (despite the fact that thread drew a record "views" and sent the kid into ego-joygasms). That means nobody post a darn thing more. Now let's try it one more time:
Under the common sense act and other related clauses herein set forth, I hereby exercise my right to pass judgement and proclaim the following:
THIS THREAD IS DEAD
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quote:Originally posted by Andy M: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Jesus, Buddha, among others.
psssssst: whew!!! Then YOU certainly can answer this question and "ease" all our feeble minds: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?[/QUOTE]
The precision of my jokes always goes unrecognized. I was playing Bible Bingo. IT's a game where you pull a Bible quote literally out of your ass to sound smart, just like Mr. Proverbs. Since most of the feel good quotes are vague enough to fit in most situations, I didnt hesitate.
quote:Originally posted by Brad: Where are your parent's while you are using all of this hate and anger on the computer?
It seems to me they need to work less hours and spend some time with you!! I think you are in desperate need of attention. If you were my BOY you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else kicking your butt!! If my teenage kid was using language like you he wouldn't be able to use his fingers to type they would be broken.
Thank you, Mr Freud.
Your parenting needs some work, please read. You don't hurt people because they use vulgar language, that's called child abuse. The best way to inspire love of "elders" is fear, of course. Since you are a hypocrite, you would start blaming everyone (but yourself) if Junior actually retaliated back. Free speech comes BEFORE "civilized respect". BTW, I was called an idiot and all before I even joined this forum.
quote: Maybe you and your family could go on the Dr. Phil show and get your differences worked out. He would tell your parent's that they probably weren't meeting your needs. Maybe you should talk to them and ask them for some love and attention.
I don't need attention. What the !@#$ is wrong with you? You can repeat and parrot idiocies endlessly and forever, but facts will not change. I didn't come here just for the hell of it, I came here after I noticed some completely false notions about me. Such as that I am Christopher Blizzard, being a Marxist, and other twisted funny farm subjects. Go back to watching Oprah, you superficial sissy.
Perhaps instead of wasting YOUR time here, check on Junior so that he doesn't get a) anyone pregnant b) drunk c) high. You know, you complain as if I was the worst kind of teenager. Instead of displacing (unto me) your fear of not knowing what the hell to do with your kids when/if they start doing that crap, try to do something positive. Sit down with your kids and tell them that knocking up Jane isn't the best idea since she might have herpes, soft drugs now days are laced with addictive hard drugs, and alcohol is just as bad.
The last time I checked, words never hurt anyone. Teenage drunken driving and teenage pregnancies did. My website as a matter of fact has caused 0 casualities in its few months online. Perhaps if I had nothing to do, aka website and pals, then I could be like other cool teenagers. Wouldn't that be nice? Nice and high, too stupid to think. Of course, if adults do it (cough, quotes article), why shouldn't kids?
At my school it seems, the richer kids are the ones to get more drunk, high etc. The reason is quite simple: If grades drop, daddy can simply spend more to get Junior into college. Perhaps a donation of a few computers to College X will also ease the process...
Thinking is the general process that's used before writing things down. Superficial scum.
I was trying to snip it cold and terminate the thread with that being the last response any of us waste on this (despite the fact that thread drew a record "views" and sent the kid into ego-joygasms). That means nobody post a darn thing more. Now let's try it one more time:
Under the common sense act and other related clauses herein set forth, I hereby exercise my right to pass judgement and proclaim the following:
_THIS THREAD IS DEAD_
Ego-joygasms? Well not quite. I'm not spending time here to get hits. I'd like to straighten a few things out. If you are interested, BTW, here's two more pages on andkon that are more popular:
Man are you pissed! Can't you face it? You're a HAVE NOT and probably stay a have not. Don't take it out on us.
Your comments about Hummer owners having, Small penises, being child molesters,..etc. sounds like mabye a reflection of yourself, sans Hummer.
Did your father molest you? Do you have a small penis? We all know you can't afford an H2. PITY...PITY....EVERYONE PITY andkon.
All this hate is directed in the wrong place. You can still go to the police and have your father put away (I pray you haven't molested your sister or brother yet). And also there are medicines out there to enlarge that BUDGIE penis of yours.
HUMMER Hater!!
