quote:Originally posted by Dan: Okay folks, lets wrap this one up.
The kid has every right to have his web page and write whatever he wants on it. Political views, porno, whatever. Legal stuff of course.
He never invited any of us to look at his page & read his view. He obviously has issues with quite a few things with the US political and economic system. Lets leave it at that. No one is going to change his mind, and he shouldn't try to change ours.
While I have much to say regarding his views, and what he could do to make himself a happier person, I won't start. Besides, there really are people who don't want to be helped.
So given all of that, I say we just drop it. While its been fun to debate, and obviously no one likes a whiner, he's only one person and its not worth going any further.
I don't appreciate your patronizing attitude. Nice to note that "some people don't want to be helpd"... Sort of sums up most people attitude about the poor in here. Once again, you people have no facts, just stereotypes.
quote:Originally posted by argonaut: _"What's wrong with inherited wealth?"_
The answer to your question is simple. _I didn't inherit it._
I think that everyone who is wealthy, whether they inherited their wealth or if they won a lottery or earned it by working, should keep only enough to live frugally on (no buying any H2s) and surrender the remainder of their wealth for handing out to all of those less fortunate. Like me. I have never even ridden in a Hummer, but my ex-girlfriend is now dating a kid who has a Hummer... Where was I? Oh yeah, if all wealthy people do not voluntarily surrender their riches, then there should be a law that forces wealthy people to do so, or allows it to be confiscated by the Hungarian government. Have you seen my righteous pictures of the homeland? It is on my most excellent website. If you had done your research as you should have you would have seen them...
Ummmm, it is simply ridiculous that people who are wealthy can go out and buy fine things like Hummer H2s, live in nice homes and eat caviar 24/7/365. The greed displayed by wealthy people is terribly offensive to those who are not wealthy and the people starving to death on every street corner in America. Do wealthy people care? Apparently not. You don't see them driving their H2s down muddy roads in Africa, but that's because they handle so poorly offroad. Ask anyone who doesn't have an H2 and they will back me up! Now that I think of it, instead of just confiscating wealthy people's money, why don't all the non-wealthy people just kill all of the wealthy people, take all of their possessions and eat all their caviar? Did you know that there are many people who work that have NEVER eaten caviar? We do not have wealthy people in Hungary --- we have hungry people in Hungary. It is hard to be well-mannered when you are hungry. You get angry when you are hungry and from Hungary... I get angry when people call me a communist. Only ignorate people say that to me! Haven't they done their research and realized that I am a great Hungarian hero who took on and conquered the mighty Mozilla. And no, Mozilla is not an offroad 4-wheel drive course in Texas!
Now, I have a most brilliant and excellent idea. Although I have never worked myself, I think that only people who work should get food. Wait... I'm not sure if I mean that. But I am never wrong so I guess it is still a most excellent idea. Maybe. Maybe not. You see my lack of actual experience is a slight hindrance when it comes to solving all the world's problems. But, if you just follow my advice you will be very surprised to find out something. I'm just not sure what... I would share more of my wonderful plans and insights into how to fix your dispicable American system, but my Mommy just called me. Dinner's ready. But don't worry, I will be back and bore you with endless boasting and naive banter! Later, Dudes!
__(The foregoing was not intended to be an imitation of any individual posting on this board. Any resemblance to an immature adolescent is purely accidental. It is, only meant to be FUNNY. If you didn't find it humorous, I am indeed very sorry.)__
Ed
Your parody is completely illogical. Since I only intended the article for friends and not for the target group, Hummer owners.
You people base your stereotypes on anecdotal evidence. That's like saying, it's always cold when I get a fever, therefore the disease is caused by coldness.
People's assertions that the more motivated you are the more money you have is clearly false. Those who are the richest are among the laziest and biggest cheaters. Bill Gates, Andrew Fastow, and other crooks.
It's hard to argue with people who think I am a Marxist, when another page of mine explicitly denies this. It's hard to argue with people who so fervently resort to such straw man arguments.
Nobody cares about you or the mindless shit that spews out of your mouth.
Don't like the sytem here? Then GET THE FAWK OUT. Go back to whatever shitty little commie country you came from. We sure as hell don't want you here, you ungrateful little bastard.
What gives you the right to come here from whatever shithole you came from and badmouth this country and the way it works?? What are homesick, and want everyone to be dirt poor and drive Yugo's?
People like you piss me off. You flock from all over the world to this country for a better life than you had at home, but still find things to bitch and moan about, while at the same time making no effort to adopt or even understand our customs and way of life. Half you a-holes don't even bother to learn the language. That said, I have to at least give you credit for speaking English.
Now PISS OFF.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike97ZJ: Don't like patronizing? Okay.
Try this on for size.
How about you just shut the FAWK up and GO AWAY.
Nobody cares about you or the mindless shit that spews out of your mouth.
Don't like the sytem here? Then GET THE FAWK OUT. Go back to whatever shitty little commie country you came from. We sure as hell don't want you here, you ungrateful little bastard.
What gives you the right to come here from whatever shithole you came from and badmouth this country and the way it works?? What are homesick, and want everyone to be dirt poor and drive Yugo's?
People like you piss me off. You flock from all over the world to this country for a better life than you had at home, but still find things to bitch and moan about, while at the same time making no effort to adopt or even understand our customs and way of life. Half you a-holes don't even bother to learn the language. That said, I have to at least give you credit for speaking English.
Now PISS OFF.
hehe, I'm angry. For one, The Yugo was Yugoslavian, pretty easy right? For two, the Constitution, the last time I read, begins with "we the people". Sure it was a mistake on their part as they did mean white property owning males, but it does sya people.
I am not a commie. http://www.andkon.com/stuf/mozilla3/ If you read history or paid attention to such giant historical events, Europe's communist bloc collapsed in 1989, with the USSR collapsing end of 1991. This means there are no more communist countries.
Please don't be a racist. Free speech is to everyone, the last time I checked. Just because this country is less corrupt than most others, doesnt mean I have to shut up.
Sometimes. Attempts to twist my words around and call me a communist (when it is clear that I'm not) shows me of course that some people would rather sling mud (with wrong facts) than argue.
quote:Originally posted by andkon: ... I am not a commie. http://www.andkon.com/stuf/mozilla3/ If you read history or paid attention to such giant historical events, Europe's communist bloc collapsed in 1989, with the USSR collapsing end of 1991. This means there are no more communist countries. ...
OK, I said I wasn't going to get back into this topic, but you pretend to know it all when in fact you've posted too many false items and contradictory remarks to even begin counting.
There are 3 widely recognized Communist nations still operating today:
North Korea
The People's Republic of China - technically still a Communist Nation-State, though practicing organized trade with Capitalist nations.
Cuba
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Quite the nice unbacked spew of words. Please quote or respond to specific quotes of mine, not just what you "feel" about me. Generalizations are quite useless. I guess including that one too hehe.
quote:Originally posted by andkon: ... I am not a commie. http://www.andkon.com/stuf/mozilla3/ If you read history or paid attention to such giant historical events, Europe's communist bloc collapsed in 1989, with the USSR collapsing end of 1991. This means there are no more communist countries. ...
OK, I said I wasn't going to get back into this topic, but you pretend to know it all when in fact you've posted too many false items and contradictory remarks to even begin counting.
There are 3 widely recognized Communist nations still operating today:
_North Korea_
_The People's Republic of China_ - technically still a Communist Nation-State, though practicing organized trade with Capitalist nations.
_Cuba_
Since when is China, Cuba, or N Korea considered parts of Europe?? Pehaps try reading what was written.
I have just one question: Andkon, please name one thing in your life that you have taken personal responsibility for.
On your site you blame: America GW Bush your teachers The inventor of C++
Need I go on? Personal responsibility is a lesson learned and accepted by a mature individual. Someday you'll know what it's like to pay bills and be responsible, for your kids, or your employees, but SOMEONE.
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I did read your post and that's why I quoted you. You act as though you're omniscient, but you make many incorrect statements. There are 3 Communist nations today and you said there were none - period. You like to rephrase your points after you've been proven wrong - convenient!
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quote:Originally posted by kelleymac2000: I have just one question: Andkon, please name one thing in your life that you have taken personal responsibility for.
On your site you blame: America GW Bush your teachers The inventor of C++
Need I go on? Personal responsibility is a lesson learned and accepted by a mature individual. Someday you'll know what it's like to pay bills and be responsible, for your kids, or your employees, but SOMEONE.
Kelley
Quote where "america" is blamed.
C++, yeah the teachers were incompetent. Perhaps the letter to Bjarne was a bit far, however, it was usual intended for friends. It is stupid to think that I blame Bjarne for my horrible year.
Would you blame a teacher who got the whole swim team drunk (my OWN experince, though I didnt get drunk) and supposedly takes weed? And then acts like a jackass in other situations?
If taking responsibility is shutting up, then I guess I havent done a great job. I dont see since when blaming was a crime.
I did read your post and that's why I quoted you. You act as though you're omniscient, but you make many incorrect statements. There are 3 Communist nations today and you said there were none - period. You like to rephrase your points after you've been proven wrong - convenient!
Since I was talking about Europe and the person said that I should go back to where I came from, I assumed you would think about Europe. Since China, N Korea, and Cuba are countries I have never been to, they aren't home. So I couldn't go BACK to them.
Very good though there are three other communist countries.
I've also been called an stupid America redneck for my strongly anti-communist views. I am glad I get harrasment from both sides. Economics isnt black or white, there are other options besides communism if one doesnt prefer capitalism.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan: Okay folks, lets wrap this one up.
The kid has every right to have his web page and write whatever he wants on it... So given all of that, I say we just drop it. While its been fun to debate, and obviously no one likes a whiner, he's only one person and its not worth going any further.
Lets get back to the H2 stuff! Agree?
- Dan QUOTE]
Dan got it right. We all keep adding fuel to the "andkon" fire. Lets just kill this thread were it stands. We all obviously disagree with the poor boy, so let's just drop it here. Arguing on the internet is pointless. We keep this type of "HUMMER Hatred" alive when we continue to quarrel over the same topics as communism or freedom of speech. I'm sorry I ever posted this thread...I was trying to stir the pot a little, but I think it may have spilt completely.
Please forgive all of us Hummer owners for buying these hateful, despicable, Earth-destroying vehicles. We simply do not have the benefit of your most wonderful wisdom. If possible, in your typically gracious manner --- maybe you can find it in that warm and gentle heart of yours to forgive us our transgressions. You see, for the most part, we just do not have the benefit of immigrating to this country. Also, we unfortunately do not have the masterful insights and experiences that you have and can only imagine how magnificent it must be to have the greatest mind in the world. Perhaps if we did, we too would come to a country as an invited "guest" and show our gratitude as you do --- by criticising and making deprecatory remarks about the people who were born and raised there. Please do not think that I am assuming anything about you. I am basing my comments on observations of your very own witty and "FUNNY" remarks. If I have failed to research you as fully as I should, I apologize. It must be terrible indeed to be the possessor of such an incredible intellect such as yours --- only to find yourself misunderstood by the barbarians surrounding you. Humorless, bigoted and racists though we all are --- maybe if you try hard you can find and appreciate the tiny shreds of decency that we possess?
How would you have us humble our unworthy selves before your majesty? Perhaps we if commit mass suicide in honor of your great wisdom and all-knowing mind? But then, we would not be able to enjoy your enlightening and stimulating wisdoms. Ahhhh, the agony. If only we were truly worthy of your attention!
Maybe, since we are obviously such unworthy and villainous characters (after all we did buy Hummers) you should punish us by simply refusing to share your intellectual magnificence with us? Oh, it would be so dreadful... No more great insights into how we are such cretins. No more quick and easy solutions for every problem in the entire world... Please Brer Fox, don't throws us in dat dere Briar Patch! I mean, oh please Master Andkon, please don't forsake us!
I do have one question though. I'm sure that you know the answer --- since you know everything about EVERYTHING. Maybe you can be kind to such a miserably "ignorate" person, such as myself, and tell me why you believe anyone in the entire world should pay any attention to you or any of the simplistic, wildly generalized comments that you spew? Maybe I am missing something, probably so... But, based upon your comments it seems absolutely obvious that while you have an over-inflated opinion of yourself, it is NOT justified in the slightest. The only thing, from my horibly warped and distorted viewpoint, that could possibly be greater than your egotistical ranting would be your lack of any sense of propriety or manners. I'm sure you can set me straight, oh Mighty One, but I was taught that voicing your opinion is one thing, but making a complete fool of oneself is quite another matter altogether. You might ask YOURSELF why you find it so compelling to "share" your wisdom with people who have, for the most part, made it quite clear that they do not appreciate or value your opinions.
One last thing before I quit reading this thread: Doesn't the simple fact that you constantly find yourself all alone in your battles against the Rest Of The World cause you to wonder? If an andkon falls in the forest, does any one give a damn? You see, while you might believe that you are incredibly gifted and unusually intelligent, but the FACT of the matter is that you fail miserably to demonstrate this in your messages. That is NOT an opinion, it is a fact. If you were even nearly as brilliant as you think you are, you would NOT have to act like an immature child acting up just to get other people to discuss things with you. Nor, would you find yourself labeled as a troll and banished from participating in forums. While you may believe that as a young child, you have all the answers --- the sorry truth of the matter is that no one has all of the answers, but only the truly IGNORANT (spelled correctly?) people delude themselves into believing such foolishness.
As I suggested much earlier, you should definitely seek psychological counseling. If you would like, I have colleagues in the Houston area who would probably be willing to help you on a reduced-fee, charity basis --- if your family can not afford to pay for your sessions.
It is really so pathetic to see someone in such obvious pain suffer so needlessly. Please let me know if I can help arrange therapy for you.
Ed
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HUMMER Hater!!
