quote:Originally posted by argonaut: Wow, he's getting defensive... That makes me really laugh. This guy is what? 17? 16? And I thought there were a bunch of stupid liberal idiots on the west coast. Looks like Texas has an infestation as well. Just because we drive hummers doesn't mean we don't speak latin buddy. Maybe the American public education system has lost its ability to impart a classical education on its students, there are still a number of great private schools that offer fine education to those willing to pay for it. Oh yeah, we should be giving that money to the poor in Africa. Ever hear of social Darwinism andkon? If you can't make it on your own in the world, maybe you shouldn't have help at all. Then maybe we would be in better shape socially. Maybe I'm just bitter because my Hummer was vandalized by like-minded idiots.
Social darwinism? Yeah I heard about. Hilter was the first to use the term. According to his brilliant plans, people like Einstein would be dead. Social darwinism is active genocide. Sure I guess its Darwinism when you kill one way or another to get rid of undesirable elements. Blacks, Jews, etc... People starving in Africa arent starving because of their own free will but because they do not have the necessary tools to develop. But you say they have elected and raised dicators! And I say that those dictators were at one time put in by the Western and Communist powers. Once again, I suggest reading a history book.
I know it's embarrasing to be told around by a mere teenager, but repeating the fact will only make yourself look more of an idiot each time I prove you wrong. So I suggest giving up or getting an brain implant.
quote:Originally posted by Chris: I think he has hummer-envy
Yes I envy cars that look like boxes. Honestly though, perhaps if the Hummer didnt look like crap I wouldnt be this obnoxious. I like curves in designs, say not rectangles.
Because it is america. You can charge what you want, and as long as there is demand at that price it will be made. What makes a Ferrari cost $300,000? Similar principle!
quote:Originally posted by Chris: Because it is america. You can charge what you want, and as long as there is demand at that price it will be made. What makes a Ferrari cost $300,000? Similar principle!
Yes it is quite sad that not only are people buying crap that they dont need, but buy them at artificially pumped up prices that do not reflect "fair" profits. And please, nobody go ranting on how Hummers produce jobs. I can bet you anything that a Hummer assembly line worker gets the same as a KIA assembly line worker. GEE where does all the money go...?
quote:Originally posted by Chris: Because it is america. You can charge what you want, and as long as there is demand at that price it will be made. What makes a Ferrari cost $300,000? Similar principle!
One more thing,
I'd hate to litter everyone's mind with such liberal "propaganda" literature, but take a quick look at http://www.andkon.com/stuf/coercion/ ... Not nearly as good as the book, but better than nothing.
andkon, you are correct. I misinterpreted what I read on oxbeef.
I thought it important that our fellow Hummer Forum members learned more about you so we can better understand why you think the way you do with regards to the Hummer. So here are a couple of sites with your name attached:
andkon, you are certainly a very intellegent young man. And you seem to be making good use of your knowledge of the computer and are not afraid to show it. Good for you. However, you come off as a very angry fellow. I am not sure how that will play out over time. We will see.
By the way, Hummer Man had it right, "Cuz we all know their is not a guy on the planet that does'nt LOVE HUMMERS!"
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quote:Originally posted by KenP: andkon, you are correct. I misinterpreted what I read on oxbeef.
I thought it important that our fellow Hummer Forum members learned more about you so we can better understand why you think the way you do with regards to the Hummer. So here are a couple of sites with your name attached:
andkon, you are certainly a very intellegent young man. And you seem to be making good use of your knowledge of the computer and are not afraid to show it. Good for you. However, you come off as a very angry fellow. I am not sure how that will play out over time. We will see.
By the way, Hummer Man had it right, "Cuz we all know their is not a guy on the planet that does'nt LOVE HUMMERS!"
Black Lingenfelter Lux
Yes, Blizzard and Deakin hate my guts. Wow. They are Mozilla, and since I am anti-Mozilla, that makes the two I guess my opponents (simply put). It is true: very few people agree with me on any single issue. If you want to follow up on Mozilla, read the articles on andkon.com and search for "andkon" on google groups.
Yes I am called a troll. Yes, I am called a troll by the same people who claim to be "open source" yet delete my messages of completely public Usenet newsgroups. I am taunted on Mozillazine.org, for example, and when I actually fight back, I get censored. "I seriously think Mozilla.org should sue Andkon" are the types of messages I get and then censored when I dare respond and explain a few things. Then we have nice Mozillian people like Jay Garcia who steal the identity of Hungarians (of all people) and then try to prove me wrong. Of course, this is off topic but the troll poll and others had to be explained before people take the liberty to casually spew around stuff.
Yes I am angry. I don't see how people can miss such simple points dressed in vulgar humor. The point is simple: I think it's wasteful to be coerced into buying a Hummer for what I think is a "let me look cool and superior" motive. Do I really mean that Africa and starving children stuff? Well, not literally of course.
One note, I find it odd how quickly my Hummer site spread around... I only gave it to a VERY few people, which means there is probably a fellow classmate of mine on these boards right now who got it from a friend of a friend... I do see a yellow Hummer at school every so often, hehe. I'll be sure to dodge the incoming tank if it goes for me.
As quoted: people who own Hummers are the worst mankind has to offer. Perhaps they are even worse than people who graduated from Harvard or Yale. They are the kind of people who will fornicate with Adolf Hitler when (never if) they go to hell to burn eternally for their crimes against humanity. end quote.
These words are abusive, disgusting and have absolutely no real basis to speak of. It's hateful, ridiculous and speaks volumes about the author. How can anyone take this guy seriously? I immediately discharged him as being a respectful person with something worthwhile to say.
People who yell and scream and come up with witty remarks tend to be heard, but certainly not listened to. Exactly like Wally George.
I've seen these types before. They're clever and certainly capable of coming across as intelligent....but in the end they're just funky beatnecks looking to stir the controversial pot and make some noise for themselves (to which they're addicted).
His article is full of bad information, bent truths and offensive conclusions for which he can neither support nor substantiate. It cracks me up though....he's got all those key words, touches on controversial elements and certainly fits the bill for the image he wishes to project.
These guys have no answers...only criticism and a big mouth. If they did come up with some great idea and solution....their own like kind would instantly rise up and condemn them in the same fashion and like manner.
Hey..maybe I'll get lucky and he'll condemn me as being the biggest something of them all?
Andkon....you don't know us...you just think you know us. We're a target-rich environment for you...so enjoy it while it last.
I've an idea for you...instead of running your mouth and masturbating your self-perpetuated ego...why don't you turn your intuitive and gifted powers to bear upon something that can really make a difference and actually do something with your time that may result in something productive: do some volunteer work for a charity, put in some time at a local shelter, get involved in your local gov't....perhaps you can eventually bridge the enormous gap between what you think the world is about and honest reality. All I see is a punk with a profane mouth, a vocabulary and a keyboard. You've yet to prove yourself otherwise.
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AAAAhhh the jealous. They are such a funny crowd. I definitely agree with Chris, Hummer-envy!
I guess I should feel bad for bettering my life and purchasing the things I want. Whatever! I think I'm going to go for a drive in my terrible, gas guzzling, people hating H2.
This guy is an idiot! Since I live in Houston, I think I may go trench his yard with my BFG's.
I was hoping that our words would prompt you to crawl from your cave and it worked.
I stand by my words 100%. You clearly state that you despise Hummers due to their excessive nature (i.e. price & representation of excess). My point is that Capitalism and the free-market economy make it such that we are disposed to pursue our own goals and economic interests without hinderance from the government or other controls.
My family lived through Communism and I clearly recall people that criticized others for owning a $#####.## home or a car that costs more than the average. This smacks of Marxist control and manipulation of the economic structure. You live in America and don't appreciate the very system that grants you so many liberties - otherwise you simply would not spew such filth.
I won't waste a single message more on you. Also, I never say anything on the Net that I wouldn't say to some one's face.
[This message was edited by SJ on 05-13-03 at 09:44 AM.]
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your also a looser in not having your own hummer....
so beat it before you get your ass beat some where in texas like maybe close to your home or bank or some stre....
just a thought because it could happen very easly the more you open your mouth the more you can upset some one enought to kille you or hurt you in some whay....
some just thoughts....
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I'm sorry Andkon. Obviously you are very conservative and intelligent. We must not be very important in the world beacuse we don't care enough about Mozilla. I wish I was Hungarian too, so I could be better than everybody else. Then maybe I could spend all of my time critisizing others and devoting myself to fighting something as important as Mozilla. Wow, what an important cause. We are all awed by your authority on capitalism, and how conspicuous consumption is evil. I have an idea Andkon, if you don't like people spending money on toys, then you should get the hell out of this country. Because we have the ability to make a fortune and then choose to do with it what we will in this country is why we are the world's only superpower. We have such a strong economy because we are a consumer culture. Technology is advanced because people and companies feel they need the latest and greatest thing. It's not about surviving anymore, it's about buying things. I for one did not purchase my hummer to make a statement, or to look cool. I bought mine because I have always wanted a Hummer, I think they are fun, and because I love going offroad. Your inferiority complex is ridiculous. Obviously you are a pathetic little Hungarian boy who was most likely abused as a child. Go eat your goulash and paprika somewhere else. I spent a month in Obuda, and I thought the Hungarians were some of the kindest people in Europe. I suppose that is why you left, you just couldn't fit in.
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HUMMER Hater!!
